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Shorter Virginia Ironside: Most Adopted Kids Would Rather Be Dead, Anyway

October 4, 2010

My latest post at NewsReal

According to author and columnist Virginia Ironside, most adopted kids would be better off dead. As would most children she considers “unfit”. In fact, she says, a “loving” mother would smother a sickly child with a pillow, because the “suffering” of being ill makes that life meaningless and not worth living. She made these vile assertions in defense of abortion while appearing on the BBC’s Sunday Morning Live during a discussion grossly entitled “Can abortion be a kindness?” First, her odious attempt to argue that abortion is a “loving choice” because some kids, in her mind, are unwanted. Her tunnel-visioned, sad excuse for a mind can’t seem to fathom the fact that the children are always wanted, by someone. You know, like people with hearts and compassion.

Not having an abortion can amount to selfishness…

Abortion can often be seen as something wicked or irresponsible but in fact it can be a moral and unselfish act. If a baby is to be born severely disabled or totally unwanted, surely abortion is the act of a loving mother.

I was rendered speechless when I first watched this. Killing a child for being inconvenient to someone is “loving, moral and unselfish”?  So, having a baby is, therefore, selfish? Besides her utter lack of a soul, she is completely morally bankrupt. And I think she has some explaining to do to very happy and loved children who have been adopted as well as to the mothers who, according to her, were so selfish as to give that child life.  My friend, Rick Sheridan, can teach her a thing or two about what an actual unselfish act is. His adopted baby girl can also teach her what a loving mother actually does. Her mama gave her life and gave her A life. She didn’t kill her. She unselfishly bore her and gifted Rick and his wife with a beautiful baby girl. I suggest Virginia look at a picture of Rick and his beautiful daughter and try to explain to her why she would have been better off dead.

Virginia Ironside then followed up her insane arguments for eugenics due to “unwantedness” (it’s so crazy, it needs its own word) by being a proponent of killing children, unborn or born, whose health isn’t up to snuff  for her standards.

And I think that if I were a mother of a suffering child, I would be the first to want I mean a deeply suffering child I would be the first one to put a pillow over its head. I would with any suffering thing and I think the difference is that my feeling of horror suffering is many greater than my feeling of getting rid of a couple of cells because suffering can go on for years.

Hey, you know what else can go on for years, Virginia? Someone’s life. You should know. You authored a book called The Virginia Monologues – 20 Reasons Why Growing Old is Great.  Yet, you’d willingly kill a child and not give him or her that chance to grow old. Growing old is only great for you and whomever you deem fit enough, huh?

In ancient Sparta, babies who were considered handicapped or in any way not perfectly healthy were exposed to the elements, left on a mountainside to die.  Have to “purify” society and all! That was a long time ago and thankfully modern civilization has come a long way.

Now we use pillows.

Gee, it’s too bad we don’t have a fancy, new-fangled thing called medicine. To pro-abortionists, an illness is a reason to kill a baby. In fact, they believe that life is expendable for any reason if it doesn’t fit into your personal plans. This includes life that is outside of the woman’s body. Ms. Ironside, like most pro-abortionists, also fails to mention those pesky babies who won’t cooperate and who survive abortion attempts. Much like our President, who gives them so little thought that he, as a Senator in Illinois debating a Born Alive bill, said this:

As I understand it, this puts the burden on the attending physician who has determined, since they were performing this procedure, that, in fact, this is a nonviable fetus; that if that fetus, or child — however way you want to describe it — is now outside the mother’s womb and the doctor continues to think that it’s nonviable but there’s, let’s say, movement or some indication that, in fact, they’re not just coming out limp and dead..

However you want to describe “it”. Sort of like the suffering “things” Ms. Ironside referred to above. And, not coming out limp and dead. How dare they insist on having the human will to live and the strong spirit to survive.

Lest you think Ms. Ironside is just some lone loon, The Guardian helpfully pointed out what monsters Leftists are by running an “article” by one of Ms. Ironside’s fellow travelers:

The decision is always portrayed as being inherently irresponsible and destructive – Ironside argued that, if it prevented an unwanted child or a child being born profoundly disabled, then it was a good decision that a woman could be proud of. It wasn’t the most tactful pro-choice argument you’ve ever heard (at one point, she alludes to “fatherless” children in the same bracket as the unwanted: that will enrage a few single mothers), but it wasn’t a radical new shift in pro-choice thinking.

Yeah, that’s the problem: It might be offensive to some single mothers. The moral bankruptcy is staggering. However, at least she’s honest. It is NOT a new shift in pro-abortion thinking. This is what they believe and it always has been.

The reason it’s controversial is twofold: first, pro-choicers have totally backed out of the abortion conversation, which has in consequence become dominated by anti-abortionists; second, because Ironside collapses “disabled” and “unwanted” into the same category. This is pretty insulting to disabled people..

Oh, we wouldn’t want to be insulting! Killing is okay, but insulting? That’s taboo! Unless of course, you are one of the “unwanteds”. No one cares what you feel.

Of course Ironside is not waging a war against the disabled: she simply said “life isn’t a gift per se”. There are plenty of circumstances that make it more burdensome than joyful.

They have taken the miracle of life and have made it expendable and burdensome. On purpose. There’s the difference between Ms. Ironside and I, and others like me, right there. We know that life is a priceless gift. A child’s life has infinite value that cannot ever be fully measured. No alleged burden can take away from that fact, nor from the multitude of moments of love and joy, of human touch and loving arms, of beauty and grace, of happiness and wonder.


Originally posted at NewsReal, cross-posted at RedState

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9 Comments leave one →
  1. Becky permalink
    October 4, 2010 10:59 pm

    This individual is a perfect example of how UGLY and APATHETIC the righteous left are in reality. Beutiful job in describing and illustrating what a hypocritical moron this woman actually is.
    I am a mother of two adopted kids. I am horrified by Virginia Ironside’s remarks and how callous she is. All I can say is she must have been treat horribly as a child to have grown up as an adult with these types of values and beliefs. She definitely does not understand love. She mentions her long standing battle with depression on her website and all I can assume is that she has not yet found a solution to her self esteem issues.
    Thank You Lori for bring this to our attention.

  2. slobyskya permalink
    October 4, 2010 11:56 pm

    Several thoughts compete for my attention in reading your typically excellent analysis and rebuttal of this sub-human, sub-Nazi specimen of a cosmically tragic meeting of sperm and ova.
    It is bad enough that this coprophagic cretin echoes almost exactly, the words of her perverted spiritual ancestors, A. Hitler and M. Sanger: The value of life is all subjective and assigned by the elite, who alone are fit to decide which lives are worth living and which are not.
    Rather, it is worse that in so few generations after Hitler’s era, a person living in the UK would spout such filth in public without fear of being stoned. And worse still that our society has become so decadent and depraved that this pinhead’s words are not considered so delusional as to mark her immediately as a total lunatic, but that such hypocrites as Ingrid Newkirk, of “Peta” and the arsehole of Princeton U, Peter Singer, a self-named ‘ethicist’, all agree also that people should be allowed to murder their defective children up to the age of two… or three… or whatever.
    Pity that their own mothers did not do each of them the service of preemptively removing them from the world with which they are so disappointed.
    BTW – what does it say, that Newkirk and Singer ALSO believe that a person having sexual relations with an animal is OK if the animal isn’t harmed?
    Hmmm…. bestiality, abortion and infanticide… didn’t I read about that in the Scriptures… and didn’t that herald the imminent downfall and utter desolation of the nations which embraced it?

  3. Molten permalink
    October 5, 2010 7:01 pm

    Lori shares this beautiful sentiment with us:

    “A child’s life has infinite value that cannot ever be fully measured. No alleged burden can take away from that fact, nor from the multitude of moments of love and joy, of human touch and loving arms, of beauty and grace, of happiness and wonder.”

    Lori…I have a neighbor who is considering having an abortion. She is HIV positive, and it has been determined that her baby is also HIV positive. She is willing to have the baby if a principled person like yourself would be willing to adopt it. The quote above makes me think that you will certainly save this life of “infinite value.” She lives in NC, so you could drive up here and meet her before choosing to do the Christian thing and save this child. I understand that adopting an aids baby may not “fit into your personal plans,” but you’re not the type of woman who would let her “plans” get in the way of saving a childs life. I also know that you’re the type of woman who would never be concerned about this babies health being “up to snuff for your standards”…right?

    Please, please show us that you don’t consider this life to be “expendable and burdensome”…Rescue this child and embrace it as your own. I’m begging you to live by your principles. This baby needs your help!

    Thank you in advance. I know you’ll do the right thing.

    • Xian Do permalink
      October 6, 2010 5:01 am

      Ah yes, the tiresome and cowardly effort to shift the burden of responsibility from your “friend**” and claim that it’s all Lori’s fault if this alleged HIV-positive baby is aborted.

      Your efforts are as pathetic as they are transparent, Molten…and they are VERY transparent.

      **I don’t believe for one second that this HIV infected pregnant friend you claim to know actually exists. How could you possibly know such a person considering you probably spend all your days & nights hunkered over a computer while living in your mommy’s basement?

      • Molten permalink
        October 7, 2010 4:05 pm

        Xian Do,

        I’m not concerned about what you believe. You’re all talk and no action. Just like Lori.

  4. Larry permalink
    October 6, 2010 5:43 pm

    You bring tears to my eyes. You speak the truth and shine a bright light on those who wish to impose a culture of death upon the most helpless and innocent among us. God bless you.

    • Molten permalink
      October 7, 2010 4:15 pm

      Newsflash! The “culture of death” you speak of is the law of the land. Shining a “bright light” on it does nothing to change that fact. All of you should take a cue from Becky above and adopt as many children as you can handle.

  5. Slobyskya Rotchikokov permalink
    October 9, 2010 1:11 am

    I also applaud you for allowing the trolls and basement dwellers to post things here, written on the laptops that their mommies paid for with their welfare checks. Generally, such things come from the vacuous brains of unemployed 40-something males who have nothing but time on their hands ( well, time and whatever pain meds they pilfer out of Mom’s purse while she sleeps) and by allowing them to post their amusing hissy fit verbiage here, you are keeping them off the streets. Well done!

  6. Becky permalink
    October 10, 2010 7:54 pm

    While all comments are welcome as it is an open forum and Ms Ziganto graciously allows all to participate, it is rather obvious as to those who comment who are serious and those who are simply acting as the tools of the leftists who seek to destroy the civil society.

    Action is a result of taking responsibility and not of avoiding responsibility. To abort a child because you made poor choices is a selfish and heinous act of someone who is bereft of any moral character. Expecting a stranger to take the burden from this person is to further excuse them from being in control of their own life and allows that selfish and misguided soul to continue living a life that is a lie. Honesty is the only cure that a person in that traghic situation will ever find to actually wrok.

    Taking pot shots at the host, or the people who care enough to place their thoughts and beliefs on this forum is itself a cheap and stupid act. I also would advise that most people who hold a set of beliefs that are traditional and most likely more conservative than the left are people of substance who have worked and do work and are producers in this society and do not depend on “Big Brother” a.k.a. Obama and his minions, to survive.

    Slobskkya, I would be happy to allow my son, who did his tour in Iraq with pride and honor to introduce you to our beliefs and work ethics. He is now 26 and working two jobs. My younger son is 23 and holds two jobs and is going to college. I am retired, and still do volunteer work and also provide web site management on a part time basis for several firms and organizations. I, my family and I am sure all of the rest of the folks of a traditional bent here, am not “sitting on my mother’s couch and typing on a laptop provided for me.” I take great offense at that remark, and point out that none of what you said is productive and adds nothing of consequence to this discussion. You typify the absurdity of the left and how useless they are in a discussion about responsibility.

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